tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6345577.post8588765339864974203..comments2024-03-28T09:53:43.900-04:00Comments on The Hurting: Tegan O'Neilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14815842488966694944noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6345577.post-46971566005762067012012-11-29T11:41:24.724-05:002012-11-29T11:41:24.724-05:00OH GOD I remember the crabs . . . that was just un...OH GOD I remember the crabs . . . that was just unbelievably terrible, wasn't it? I remember at the time thinking that this was one of the worst things I'd ever read, and I wasn't even very picky back then. <br /><br />But yeah - I've got whole sequences of Ellis' run committed to memory. It is also my favorite thing he has ever done, some beautiful work, some great art from Steve Pugh. Weird to think the run was only 14 issues long - plus a couple specials - it looms so large in my memory. <br /><br /><br /><br />But I have rarely seen a series I loved go so quickly from fantastic to crap. They could not have killed the series more definitively if the had shot it in the head.Timothy O'Neilhttp://twitter.com/timoneil5000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6345577.post-15946179717693130732012-11-29T10:48:08.562-05:002012-11-29T10:48:08.562-05:00There was some really strong work being done on th...There was some really strong work being done on the 2099 books - Ellis's Doom, obviously, which I rank as among his best stuff (seriously, go back and re-read it - like Robert says, it clearly has the seeds for a host of future Ellis projects like Authority and Transmet, but was still early enough in Ellis's career that he wasn't cynically phoning it in on his mainstream work). And even stuff like David's Spider-man 2099, which was surprisingly solid, and the only readable Spider-man comic of the era, given how the "real" Spider-man was lousy with clones.<br /><br />I remember that the post-President Doom storyline was originally meant to jump the line ahead several years - to 2101, if I remember right - in a kind of LoSH-style two-year-gap. All of that was tossed out the window when Cavalieri was fired - then Ellis left, and everything went to shit, with that god-awful Atlantis stuff, and all the crap with Doom traveling back in time to look for crabs with Namor, and christ, how do I even remember this stuff?moose n squirrelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6345577.post-81476384414568367732012-11-29T05:30:52.355-05:002012-11-29T05:30:52.355-05:002099 did get a brief, absolutely dire crossover to...2099 did get a brief, absolutely dire crossover to close out the remaining series' cancellations, involving Atlanteans invading and most of the world sinking underwater, as depicted by a host of godawful fill-in creative teams because nearly everyone who'd been doing the books up until that point quit in protest to Cavalieri's firing.yrzhenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6345577.post-8335411434506702142012-11-29T03:30:56.211-05:002012-11-29T03:30:56.211-05:00I edited it a bit to reflect the timeline - it'...I edited it a bit to reflect the timeline - it's been over fifteen years and I honestly did not remember the order those books came out. I thought Ellis had left earlier, but still, when he and PAD left their respective books all that was left was for the last person in the room to turn off the lights.Timothy O'Neilhttp://twitter.com/timoneil5000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6345577.post-19297330195544350802012-11-28T14:38:01.151-05:002012-11-28T14:38:01.151-05:00It was based around the end of it, but it soon dev...It was based around the end of it, but it soon devolved as the line changed course dramatically to fit a new editorial mandate. Ellis quit the line very soon after the AD story finished and predicted the changes would kill the entire line - he was more or less right, even if it took a while for the long tail to completely die. <br /><br />For so long as Ellis was in charge of DOOM 2099, the line remained good. When Ellis left, the line almost immediately became horrible across the board - which is a shame, because they were some of my favorite books at the time, even the pre-Ellis stuff.Timothy O'Neilhttp://twitter.com/timoneil5000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6345577.post-84727493163140962392012-11-28T12:59:54.306-05:002012-11-28T12:59:54.306-05:00Wait, that's a FARGate? That's like an Asy...Wait, that's a FARGate? That's like an Asylum-level Stargate knockoff!<br /><br />Also, the 2099 line-wide crossover was based around the end of Ellis' PRESIDENT DOOM storyline, if I recall. Ellis' DOOM 2099 now reads like a rough draft of his big series in the oughts, weirdly enough.Robert Karolhttp://twitter.com/robbykarolnoreply@blogger.com